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Nov. 10th, 2006 | 03:35 pm
posted by: xfotisx in anarkospiritual

Hi everyone, great community! I personally don't have a 'curriculum vitae' in anarchism or anything like that... I understand anarcho-spirituality as the state when one forgets about names, culture, color, race, ideals..Then what's left is something that doesn't know about 'good' or 'bad', Proudhon, Bakunin or Tolstoy and his 'christian anarchism'.

If I had to place myself somewhere, I'd say it's more of a green anarchism, social ecology stand. I think there is a lot of un-learning to do before we can qualify ourselves as spiritual beings.Thanks for reading and looking forward to some interesting conversations. Keep the community active!

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xIt Never Rainsx

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from: xfotisx
date: Nov. 16th, 2006 01:02 am (UTC)
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Having no conceptual boundaries, or at least having the will to recognize and fight them, can give you tremendous energy to think and see clearly. It comes into everything from interpersonal relationships to self-knowledge to the so called quest for god. Detail, delicacy, possibility, nature... it's all in there, in the state I'm talking about which you've labeled down as 'sameness'. This state is the pure human state, all-embracing and stripped from the innumerable facets that man has always been inventing and re-inventing in the hunt for psychological security.

Freedom is not a state of mind and can't be captured. It is nevertheless essential if one wants to look at the truth. Not the Truth, just the truth in everything that comes by him/her. There might be two sides of the coin but only one truth and no path. And how can I reach that truth if I have an anchorage which dictates my scope and view?

My dreams are not fake at all. I'm talking about cleaning the blackboard with intelligence, not whiping everything out.

p.s. Concerning Indian ideology, I said 'the praise of uniqueness' doesn't exist, but you compared it to the social racism of the caste system.
p.s.2 I like this part: 'I value the interplay between the universal and the particular'...

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algizshield

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from: algizshield
date: Nov. 16th, 2006 11:04 am (UTC)
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I think I have a better understanding of what you're describing now. Maybe. You must realize that in attempting to describe this condition you are trying to reach, you are relying on some of the things you also see fit to discard? A necessity, possibly, of communicating via the internet. But, possibily a representative of something else... Again, look at your language! "Pure", "truth"!

A part of me is suspicious of whether or not you have tapped into the condition you have described. If you have seen with clear eyes, than how is it you do not see what social organization and idea can BE? Do you believe that constructs of myth, of language, of craft, are nothing more than hindrances? Or is it just that you believe these things to be all equally compatible all the time?

For me, attempting to come closer to truth (difficult word!), has always been a process of elimination (which I casually refer to as nihilism), like the one you describe, but also of construction. Such is the nature of my "culture". "Nihilism" + Idealism.

In observing things with clarity, one sees organization. One sees nature. Do you not build from the organization you have seen?

There are a lot of things in my post you didn't really address, and what I'm really left with is the sense that you have explored little and simplified much. Nonetheless, thank you for your responses.

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algizshield

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from: algizshield
date: Nov. 16th, 2006 11:31 am (UTC)
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Afterthought:

Can you describe some experiences you've had where you've enacted this process to your benefit?

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xIt Never Rainsx

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from: xfotisx
date: Nov. 20th, 2006 12:59 am (UTC)
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If I give you any specific examples I will ruin the beauty of it. Like you said, ranting to people with different experiences is stupid and insulting. But it's not an imaginary state, like some people think they've seen God after fasting and chanting for hours or something. It's much more practical.

I am talking about living with intelligence. About using the things we talked about (culture, language etc) to my advantage without clinging to them. Because truth is I am remote from these things! If I do that then I am uninhibited and I can find room to breathe, learn, act. Then you can call me any name (good or bad) and it's okay because I don't have a concept you can threaten. Then I can really love someone, and not because they fit in a fucked up imaginary concept I have in my head. I can create, because I don't try to paint like Picasso but just want to create. And there are some sacred things too, that would be ridiculous to speak about over the Internet.

I know that every time I am leaving some things unanswered in your posts, but I try to stick to the most important things I want to say and get the message through. I don't want to make it self indulgent either and this is a public community after all. But if there is something else you ever want to talk about drop a line and I can give you my email.

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